A very strange thing happened to me, just now. I couldnt believe it. I felt as if the flatmate next to me came, and he somehow closed his my light and the fan next to me. Which is kind of immposible. I was shocked. I could stand for a while. So m now. I quite puzzled how could this be. If that was a dream, how can it be so real. I am shattered a bit. It is an insane trick my mind is playing with me.
Is it becoz I didnt eat any thing for whole day or what.. Strange! Puzzled...
Monday, June 22, 2009
Monday, May 18, 2009
Why Goldmund Slept with so many women?
Is experiencing bliss occasionally more enlightenment than knowing everything about the bliss but not experiencing it?Or let me simplify my question
Is experiencing Love occasionally,giving yourself completely to it momentarily more enlighting than knowing just everything about love (of course but with still of
doubts)..
Is there any other perfect way to express love that the perfect intimacy? Is love known without experiencing it,without drowning into it?
How can you know the creator of the world, without looking at his creation from very nearity of life? Can he be just known by plainly thinking about him and speculating about him?
Wont just thinking about him will leave you in a state of doubt ? Isnt doubt full knowledge of everything worse than little confident knowledge of smaller thing?
Under light of these questions I want to say I Goldmund was really enlighted, atleast as much as Narcisuss.
There are different way to achieve God. I am an religiously -atheist, so my definition is just confined to he being a creator, operator and destroyer.Or lets say just
mother Shakti(Energy) motivation for everything.
Goldmund always thrived for his mother,in fact in the book once its mentioned his mistress and mother all disolve in one. His way of get enlighted was through senses.
Of course many doctrines of religion including Christanity and Hinduism portray sensual ism as a sin. But let me ask, is there anyone who didnot feel bliss in deepest involvement
with her or his lover? If not, there is not point of reading this, if yes that how could it be that GOD who creator of all,put this bliss in something which is considered as sin like Sensual pleasure which is the predecessor of this creative force, how could this be?
Also Isn't feeling of being a creator temporary equal to the eternal creator? I think it is. It is not boastful but all Religions say God is within us. It depends on how we realise him.
OK, let me not go away from Goldmund and talk about him. Goldmund was the man who had the creative force within him, he was an artist after all hence he was momentarily equal to God.
Well the primary prejudice we had against him being enlighted was he slept with way too many women. But let us speculate why exactly did he go to woman? Lust! What is Lust? Loving women for
phyisical pleasure! ok, what does it end into ? A Physical Union, which ofcourse is union of soul may be for a moment, but dont you think is it the creativity.
What is the experience, one feel blank,empty mind feels disolved? Isnt this what Yoga teaches you to do. So is the effect more important or the instrument ,the way?
I am not trying to justify him. I am just telling what one young Goldmund in making thinks about the other Goldmund whom he read about?
I know I am trying to make a point which is nonsense as per every religion, but religion is not made by gods, but by their followers! Did Jesus Wrote bible? or Allah wrote Koran!
Ofcourse I am not trying to doubt this doctrines here, because thats the part of other story. but can you tell me why did GOd, created sensuality if it was a sin. Ok one might say he created it for continuation of human or an animal race.
Some say it should be done in moderation? Come on, now what is this moderation. You(God) are giving me the ultimate creative power which gives me bliss and you say use in moderation. Do you ever tell an poet, hey use your creativity in moderation, dont write much !
Well no, but then why to the first one? this is only becoz you are part of this society for which the doctrine is necessary for smooth running of society!
But do bounds of society stop a Yogi a achieving a bliss. Ofcourse it might be only your family becoz this are people whom you effect with this.
you might say still you havent answer why so many women? May be he was looking for permanance in love, in bliss? Or may be was looking image of his mother or his first love?
Also Goldmund learned about the eternal mother through the creation, forest trees, animals, his own creations. So for that he needed to travel. May be all of women were not ready to go along with him.
Nevertheless he was more enlighted that Narcissus in light of this. In fact if you read about Naricususs, he was in full of doubts about his ways. He was in fact shaken to his grounds when he heard Goldmund.
Rather he was the one who send Goldmund to the world.
I want to talk a hell lot about it, but I think I would not write more about this. I know I might sound nonsense for the world but...
In the End I would say, Both of them Narcissus and Goldmund are the guys who reached the bliss, one in the worldly way , other in a priestly way.
Of course to sustain nicely in the society, and not be sad about it, one has to be chose the right balance between two which is dynamic as per weather and Time.
But once mind is stretch by an idea or once you fall in the river of this thoughts he/She has to swim through it, go through all this pain to reach the bliss.
Bliss is like love, as one of the big poets from India said"This love is not easy, Just understand that, It is Ocean of fire, and you have to cross it drowning".
Let the Bliss be with you.
Is experiencing Love occasionally,giving yourself completely to it momentarily more enlighting than knowing just everything about love (of course but with still of
doubts)..
Is there any other perfect way to express love that the perfect intimacy? Is love known without experiencing it,without drowning into it?
How can you know the creator of the world, without looking at his creation from very nearity of life? Can he be just known by plainly thinking about him and speculating about him?
Wont just thinking about him will leave you in a state of doubt ? Isnt doubt full knowledge of everything worse than little confident knowledge of smaller thing?
Under light of these questions I want to say I Goldmund was really enlighted, atleast as much as Narcisuss.
There are different way to achieve God. I am an religiously -atheist, so my definition is just confined to he being a creator, operator and destroyer.Or lets say just
mother Shakti(Energy) motivation for everything.
Goldmund always thrived for his mother,in fact in the book once its mentioned his mistress and mother all disolve in one. His way of get enlighted was through senses.
Of course many doctrines of religion including Christanity and Hinduism portray sensual ism as a sin. But let me ask, is there anyone who didnot feel bliss in deepest involvement
with her or his lover? If not, there is not point of reading this, if yes that how could it be that GOD who creator of all,put this bliss in something which is considered as sin like Sensual pleasure which is the predecessor of this creative force, how could this be?
Also Isn't feeling of being a creator temporary equal to the eternal creator? I think it is. It is not boastful but all Religions say God is within us. It depends on how we realise him.
OK, let me not go away from Goldmund and talk about him. Goldmund was the man who had the creative force within him, he was an artist after all hence he was momentarily equal to God.
Well the primary prejudice we had against him being enlighted was he slept with way too many women. But let us speculate why exactly did he go to woman? Lust! What is Lust? Loving women for
phyisical pleasure! ok, what does it end into ? A Physical Union, which ofcourse is union of soul may be for a moment, but dont you think is it the creativity.
What is the experience, one feel blank,empty mind feels disolved? Isnt this what Yoga teaches you to do. So is the effect more important or the instrument ,the way?
I am not trying to justify him. I am just telling what one young Goldmund in making thinks about the other Goldmund whom he read about?
I know I am trying to make a point which is nonsense as per every religion, but religion is not made by gods, but by their followers! Did Jesus Wrote bible? or Allah wrote Koran!
Ofcourse I am not trying to doubt this doctrines here, because thats the part of other story. but can you tell me why did GOd, created sensuality if it was a sin. Ok one might say he created it for continuation of human or an animal race.
Some say it should be done in moderation? Come on, now what is this moderation. You(God) are giving me the ultimate creative power which gives me bliss and you say use in moderation. Do you ever tell an poet, hey use your creativity in moderation, dont write much !
Well no, but then why to the first one? this is only becoz you are part of this society for which the doctrine is necessary for smooth running of society!
But do bounds of society stop a Yogi a achieving a bliss. Ofcourse it might be only your family becoz this are people whom you effect with this.
you might say still you havent answer why so many women? May be he was looking for permanance in love, in bliss? Or may be was looking image of his mother or his first love?
Also Goldmund learned about the eternal mother through the creation, forest trees, animals, his own creations. So for that he needed to travel. May be all of women were not ready to go along with him.
Nevertheless he was more enlighted that Narcissus in light of this. In fact if you read about Naricususs, he was in full of doubts about his ways. He was in fact shaken to his grounds when he heard Goldmund.
Rather he was the one who send Goldmund to the world.
I want to talk a hell lot about it, but I think I would not write more about this. I know I might sound nonsense for the world but...
In the End I would say, Both of them Narcissus and Goldmund are the guys who reached the bliss, one in the worldly way , other in a priestly way.
Of course to sustain nicely in the society, and not be sad about it, one has to be chose the right balance between two which is dynamic as per weather and Time.
But once mind is stretch by an idea or once you fall in the river of this thoughts he/She has to swim through it, go through all this pain to reach the bliss.
Bliss is like love, as one of the big poets from India said"This love is not easy, Just understand that, It is Ocean of fire, and you have to cross it drowning".
Let the Bliss be with you.
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